Wait, this is the same troll from that Thor thread. If they wanted you dead,they'd crush your throat before you could even think about it, Also cool story I heard that once a tiger and a lion were in side by side cages for whatever reason at a zoo and the tiger managed to reach through the cage and severed the Lions artery just leaving him in a pool of blood. False argument #9: Once a lion takes you down to the ground, your done! Much faster than lions; averaging about 30% faster. Lions and tigers are among the most ferocious animals but there are important differences between them. Hippos are much bigger than a lion, and because of that are capable of fighting with other hippos, crushing boats with their jaws, among other things with no problem. If it was ontop of me, I'd use my left elbow (assuming that my head is to the left of the lion's face) to keep the lions teeth away from me, while using my left and right hand to lift the lions left arm up until it's shoulder would be broken. The average male lion weighs 190 kilograms, while the average male human weighs 81 kilograms. It's built closer to a Jaguar where as a lions built closer to a cheetah. Lions use technique to take down prey or fight rivals and they have honed these techniques over the evolution of the species. Imagine that much weight carried by your jaw and neck. As I said, you don't have to dodge it, you could blind it. You see regardless of whether you believe in god or evolution you have to admit as far as sheer ability to kill lions are just made so much better for it. Debunking the argument: If a lion were to jump at you, you could easily use it's momentum against it. That mountain lions fear humans may come as a surprise to some, but there’s good reason for this behavior. @frogdog: Just because YOU say it's BS, doesn't actually mean it's BS. The material on this site can not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with prior written permission of Multiply. Claiming that lions are just wild and lack technique in fighting is completely ignorant. This is beyond stupid, it transcends the concept of stupid and enters a new realm of low intelligence. Gorillas, being in the same general shape as humans, will be percieved as being stronger than lions because of what an angry gorilla could do. And if a human were to punch a lion as hard as he could, the lion would definietely feel some pain. @kfabz-23: But you can. And if it was <6 months of old, you could've effortlessly choked it to death. Since it was so young, you could've even pinned it down. You could've easily gouged it's eyes out. So the strongest of humans could easily toy with the weight of a lion. Hyenas outnumber lions and use their larger populations to compete with lions for food. @jayc1324: Keep repeating that to yourself. One must always do their best to avoid fights with lions, even though humans are more than capable of defeating lions with nothing but hands. Debunking the argument: This is completely false. @rpgesus: They are just so much stronger, faster, and more durable than us it isn't even funny. I have, however, seen the kind of damage a < 6 month old tiger cub can inflict. Same thing now. Their hunting skill and precision is insane. Or even kill it. Debunking the argument: The only truth to this argument is that lions weigh more than humans. Man-eating lions like the ones who famously killed over 100 men working on a railway in Kenya's Tsavo region in 1896 have given the species a fearsome reputation. Lions about 35 mph, lionesses about 45 mph. It's perfectly possible. The tiger is stronger. Some people say that gorillas are stronger than chimps and chimps are 4-6 times stronger than humans, therefore gorillas are much stronger than humans. I am not encouraging you to fight a lion. Gorillas are stronger than you and me combined. How old was queen elizabeth 2 when she became queen? That cat was messing around and about 1/5 or 1/6 of its adult weight/size. however, seen the kind of damage a < 6 month old tiger cub can inflict. But its obvious that tigers are more dominant pound for pound. A punch would bruise. What was the Standard and Poors 500 index on December 31 2007? I don't fight lions for fun. I just don't think that's possible against any big cat. Is that why you think technique might actually work on a lion? I worked at a zoo for a summer several years ago as an animal handler and I have a scar on my arm from a cute little tiger cub about the size of a pitbull effortlessly cleaving through the skin on my arm because I snatched a toy out of her mouth while playing. @mkgod: Just because YOU say it's stupid, doesn't actually mean it's stupid. Which is pretty funny to write in the forums of a comic-book related website where super powers are frequently discussed. The silverbacks are in fact stronger than 20 adult humans combined as they can lift or throw up to 815 kgs while a well-trained man can only lift up to 400 kgs. When a Tiger fights, he fights to kill, not just to push aside someone and get better food. Full Episode: Joe Rogan Experience #1024 - Bert Kreischer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELUCUFQp1_k Raw strength means nothing in a fight. You have no logical response. The supposed technique of a lion is nowhere near as intricate as the technique of a professional human martial artist. Creating more power, an impact in it's blows. The average full-grown adult lion would GET lolstomped by a full grown human being 99.9% of the time. This is false. Ofcourse you'd pull the troll card. It is interesting to see all the heated debates all over the internet over which of these big cats would win in a fight. And no, they wouldn't be able to crush your throat if you don't let it. You just have to do it in the right way. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. ? Now, it's time for me to debunk some arguments that go against this: False argument #1: Lions are way stronger than human beings! The Lion requires the help of the pride to take out a large animal. Debunking the argument: Most human beings are capable of withstanding the weight of a lion on top of them. See this image? If it lunged at me, I'd use it's momentum against it. If it can be done to a bear, it can be done to any lion. You could've easily done so much to kill that cub with your bear hands, or inflict serious injury upon it. 919. For this reason, any human being should easily be able to dodge a lion's lunges, throw several punches to its nose which would most certainly put it through pain, jump on it's back and put it in a suffocating headlock. Good for you. As long as you keep your chest above his body when he's on his back, and put in a headlock, you'd have a very good chance at choking it to death, or until it falls unconcious. honestly read this, don't think its barehanded but its badass, http://www.maasai-association.org/lion.html. You're right A man could beat a lion, most could not and the ones that can it could really go either way. @batmanwinsbecausewhynot: The fact that you're talking to me is evidence I have a brain. They will stay with their mother for up to two years b… Hippos are stronger than lions. Strength compared to humans: 6 times human strength (estimated) Bite Strength: 1,300 PSI (stronger than a great white shark or lion) Running speed: 25 mph (40 km/h) Arm span: 8'6″ (2.6 m) Weight: 430 lb (195 kg) Height: 5'6″ (168 cm) Color: Black (adult males have a silver “saddle” on their back). Both of you are completely wrong. The average full-grown adult lion would GET lolstomped by a full grown human being 99.9% of the time. I would jump on it's back and put it in a headlock until it's heart ceased beating. @hulk99: Is this a joke? Tigers are larger than Lions. but a man has killed a bear with his bare hands at the cost of his own life. could've cost me a tricep (or even the use of my arm) with one swipe of her mighty paw. If they come in contact with each other it dosent mean they will fight. Yeah and I can be a bear with my lion hands. Their hunting skill and precision is insane. @batmanwinsbecausewhynot: It's a fact, but whatever. You are wrong. False argument #2: A lion would just lunge at you and grab hold of you! Just because most people believe in something doesn't make it true. Lions aren't heavy enough to crush human beings. You are wrong. In the wild, males often dominate leadership roles, but not in seven species of mammals ranging from orcas and African elephants to spotted hyenas Well I proved you wrong, so... Why are you calling me ignorant? One could still choke it to death, gouge it's eyes out, or break it's arms. False argument #11: A lion would just jump at your throat! If they wanted you dead,they'd crush your throat before you could even think about it. Most people believe that a human can't beat a lion in a fight with their bare hands, and people who do believe that humans can beat a lion with their bare hands are mocked. Are hyenas stronger than lions? You are drastically overestimating the efficacy of technique vs. the literal force of nature that is an attacking lion. yep and while one time a dude did rip a bears throat out but then died. The strongest of human beings can effortlessly toy with the weight of a lion, one doesn't have to be strong in order to use the lions momentum against it, and anyone (even the weakest of human beings) can choke a lion out. A long time ago most people believed the earth is flat, and people who thought it was round were mocked. An adult lion is more physically powerful than you can imagine. Are you a martial artist? I'd only fight a lion if I had to, I'd never fight one for fun. You're wrong. What animal has the weakest bite force? Send us a video of you beating up a lion. Hyenas and lions cover the same ground, hunt the same prey, and scavenge the same remains of animals. You have entirely missed the point in my story. The average full-grown adult lion would GET lolstomped by a full grown human being 99.9% of the time. If you did some research, you would realize that on two separate occasions, a single human being defeated bears with their bare hands. Now I'm talking about a cub that I had helped raise (bottle feeding and handling) that knew me and was not entirely serious. Debunking the argument: So? Lions kill more than 100 people in Africa each year. So lions are approximately twice as heavy as humans, but this is to the humans advantage, because as I said in one of my earlier arguments, a human would be able to use the lions weight and momentum against it. False argument #4: A human wouldn't be able to choke a lion with a headlock, it's neck is too thick! I just don't think that's possible against any big cat. In the most detailed study to date comparing the muscles of chimps and humans, researchers found that chimps are 1.35 times more powerful than people. That's a leopard carrying about 80–100 pounds of gazelle up to a tree branch to eat in peace. Raw strength means nothing in a fight. Although there are numerous documented fights from all over the world between a tiger and a lion, the truth is that sometimes the tiger wins and sometimes the lion wins. And if the lion's head was below your head, then you could easily gouge it's eyes out with your fingers. @lettsplay10: Just because you say "no" doesn't actually mean it's wrong. If a lion were to take you down onto the ground, you could easily move your head to side to avoid it's teeth, and (assuming that your head is to the right of the lion's face) use your right elbow to push the lions neck away from you, while using your right and left hand to push the right arm of the lion upwards until it's shoulder would be broken. Conclusion: Lions lack technique, they're simply wild in their fighting. Dead23. That cat was messing around and about 1/5 or 1/6 of its adult weight/size. False argument #3: Lions are so thick, they wouldn't get hurt by any human punch! Only fight one if you have to. It is presumed that sick or elderly lions who are no longer able to hunt stronger prey may turn to humans as a source of easy food, killing an estimated 250 people per year in Africa. What I'm saying is that a baby at play, weighing less than 100 lbs. Raw strength means nothing in a fight. I'd only fight one if I had to. If I used my teeth, I could rip your face of too. Does pumpkin pie need to be refrigerated? Technique >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Literal force of a lion. A human could use the physical weight and strengh of a lion against the lion. By contrast, tigers are often solitary, though they do socialize. Lion anyday!Tigers are stronger than lions when they are heavier than them, but lions have stronger claws/teeth.This is the Big one. By contrast, tigers are often solitary, though they do socialize. The fight would cease as soon as you blind it. DON'T ASK ME STUPID CRAP: Don't ask me to prove my point by fighting a lion, because I wont do that. False argument #5: Even if you manage to jump on a lion's back, the lion would role on it's back and crush you! Theyre ks even an actual video of a tiger scaring a male lion … Does that mean it's true? Debunking the argument: A wild opponent would always lose to someone with style. An expert martial artist would always find ways to avoid the teeth and claws of a lion, especially since martial artists have a technique, and lions don't. The only reason to why humans tend to not defend themselves when attacked by lions is because they're usually overwhelmed by fear and panic. They're so heavy! If not, he would use his elbows to keep the lions claws away from him, and use his two hands to push the lions neck away to stop it from bighting you. If I had not dodged as effectively as I did I would likely have suffered a fairly serious wound. The lion would scratch you once your fingers begin to gouge its eyes out, but that doesn't matter, you must keep at it until it's eyes are no longer a part of the lion. In fact, the strongest of human beings can lift as much as 214 kilograms over their heads, and 523 kilograms to their waste. And if I was actually fighting that cat I would probably win but come out with some serious injuries. That's right, boys and girls. Congradulations dude, you may be responsible for some of the most ignorant comments I have ever seen published on this site. They are both among the five big cats (the other three being the jaguar, leopard, and snow leopard) and are apex predators i.e., they have no predators of their own and reside at the top of their food chain. While lions may be use to battle, they are only use to being cut, but not bruised. Lions usually work toghter to obtain food, tigers dont. It DOES matter if the human knows martial arts, because it WILL help them. Some are: few animals are stronger than a lion with the exception of the African elephant, hippopotamus, rhinoceros and cape buffalo Post May 22, 2009 #1 2009-05-22T20:45. Prehistoric human beings, with their improving hunting technologies, probably competed with lions for prey, and lion subspecies in Europe and the Americas went extinct. Debunking the argument: So? This topic is locked from further discussion. Debunking the argument: A good martial artist would use the lions momentum against it. No. When did organ music become associated with baseball? For example, a gorilla would be able to rip a tree out of the ground, where a lion could not. It does not matter at all whether or not that human knows martial arts because it isn't going to help them. False argument #7: Lions are wild animals, they would go crazy on you! Lions attack each other with scratches and bites, these things cut, but they don't bruise. Debunking the argument: So? False argument #8: A lion could just rip your face off! Does this mean it's true? She didn't want to give up her toy but not so much that she was willingly to full on attack me, just claw me enough to show her displeasure. It can inflict wounds, but so can any human being with their teeth. If I had not dodged as effectively as I did I would likely have suffered a fairly serious wound. okay then go beat up a lion then, dumbass. You have entirely missed the point in my story. Reason why tigers are stronger then lions. We're made to think, which is why back when we really needed to regularly fight lions someone invented/found the pointy stick. :-). And if I was actually fighting that cat I would probably win but come out with some serious injuries. The tiger does not win by intimidation and social challenge, he goes into a fight all or nothing. And no, they aren't capable of disconnecting an entire muscle with one swipe of her paw, and it's not mighty. So, right there, that is an advantage to lionesses as far as hunting goes. Debunking the argument: This is completely false. I think lions are stronger but this is just a guessThe StrongerSome say lions are stronger because they are the "King of the Jungle," which makes them stronger than anything or anybody. The Tiger regularly takes on game that is far larger and stronger than the Lion and does such alone. No. Lions and elephants are bigger and stronger than humans yet the human population growth in the past 200 years has far exceeded that of the lions and elephants...possible reasons to this please?? Copyright © 2020 Multiply Media, LLC. 919. Chimpanzees do have stronger muscles than us – but they are not nearly as powerful as many people think. i dont care what type of martial arts you specialize in but i bet if u see a freaking lion come at you at full speed the last youll be thinking of is using ur bear hands cuz the first ull do iw run away screaming like a little girl, @nothingclever: yep and while one time a dude did rip a bears throat out but then died. Please read what I said at the end of my post. Who is the longest reigning WWE Champion of all time? Dead23. Based on scientific studies the Tiger is a much stronger animal. No, it would've only cost you a tricep if you let it, but you could've easily killed it. The 7 non-human mammals where females rule the roost. Humans have a technique. Would a tiger kill a cat? If I saw a lion running towards me, I'd stand my ground. Congratulations dude, you may be responsible for some of the most ignorant comments I have ever seen published on this site. Sharp teeth isn't required to tear flesh, just a strong bight force. @batmanwinsbecausewhynot: The bible is nothing more than a fairytale, but human beings can still use their bare hands to defeat lions. Any adult gorilla can lift up to 450 kilograms, not with a body size that can go as high as 200kgs. Tiger: Females will give birth to 2-4 cubs after a gestation of 104 days. male human. False argument #10: A lion weighs so much more than a human, he would just pin you down to the ground! Debunking the argument: This isn't even true in the slightest bit. Next argument please. @hulk99: I am going to assume you are just trolling your own thread at this point. However, a lion could hunt down,say, a water buffalo, and kill it, where a gorilla would have difficulty doing so. Stronger? Are you seriously making the above points? She didn't want to give up her toy but not so much that she was willingly to full on attack me, just claw me enough to show her displeasure. And also, a healthy male human could most certainly handle 190 kilograms on top of him. An average, full-grown adult lion lolstomps an average, full-grown human being 99.9% of the time. @hulk99: I don't have evidence you have a brain. The big cats are usually killed in response to these attacks. Now I'm talking about a cub that I had helped raise (bottle feeding and handling) that knew me and was not entirely serious. Humans—even professional fighters or soldiers—never do this, unless they are in such a state of psychosis that they might as well be wild animals. We humans are actually pretty feeble animals when compared to other species. Here was me getting ready to beat up some lions to find out that I still can't. They are not "toying with" the weight of a lion or using its momentum against it, or choking it out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec7rCsNFn30&t=2m02s. While lions may have thick necks, the arms of a strong human being would definietely suffocate a lion if he were to jump on its back and squeeze the lion's neck as hard as he could. A Tigers Limbs are much more massive then a Lions Limbs. In fact, do your best to avoid fights with these animals. An Average adult male lion is about 20x stronger than an average Lions are larger and stronger than hyenas, but what advantage do hyenas have over lions? What is the conflict of the story sinigang by marby villaceran? @batmanwinsbecausewhynot: Absence of evidence is evidence of absence. While male lions are generally larger and stronger than female lions, it is the close-knit female pride alliance that typically hunts and provides for the pride. Lions aren't as intelligent as human beings, not even close. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Debunking the argument: So what? False argument #6: Lions have such sharp claws and teeth, they would shred you to bits! With less prey and less room to roam, lions often wander into villages and farms in search of food, leading to clashes with humans. Both may prey on humans, though rates of man-eating tend to be higher for the tiger. "I don't fight lions for fun.". All Rights Reserved. Are Tigers Stronger Than Lions? Why don't libraries smell like bookstores? They have been evolved to eat specific species, so that it will stabilize the nature. Hungry lions also prey on cattle and other livestock. False argument #1: Lions are way stronger than human beings! I have never fought a lion. A dog is much stronger than a human of similar weight, for example, and big cats like leopards and pumas, which are considerably smaller than tigers or lions, are far stronger than dogs. How much stronger is a lion than a human? A lion would physically overwhelm a human being without even trying. Same thing should apply for everyone else. 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